Memories of the Alhambra: Writer Song Jae Jung’s Interview

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Writer Song Jae Jung‘s interviews were published by the Korean media since 2 days ago, and immediately there were a lot of negative feedbacks flooding the social media. I’m glad she came out to clarify some of the unanswered mysteries for us, but also can’t help but wonder if it was better she hadn’t. The wrath of fans/netizens is no joke.


First and foremost, I’m actually proud of myself for getting two things right about her story, [pat self], haha. When I first saw Memories of the Alhambra, the first thing that came into my mind was the infamous Pokémon Go that everyone was crazy about couple of years ago, and she confirmed she was indeed inspired by it. Read more link

And with two episodes left, it is unlikely that we will get an explanation for the reason of how Cha Hyung Seok and Seo Jung Hoon die; therefore, Writer Song provided that explanation in the interview. Her explanation coincide with mine (Yay?!), i.e. because the AR game is so real that the brain thinks it really happened and the body reacts to it, perhaps a shock (much like Jin Woo went into seizure in the eyes of those we didn’t play the game). In addition, she also explained why the AR game became ‘real’ and I’m on board with that explanation, and I’ll think about it more once the finale is aired. Read morelink


Writer Song also explained Jin Woo’s ex-wives and Cha Hyung Seok are important characters from Jin Woo’s past. They are crucial secondary storyline of Jin Woo: his past mistakes and wrong choices that will shape him (in terms of character development) and help him walk into a new relationship. Yes, this makes sense. It takes two to tango, as Soo Jin’s husband he failed to protect their relationship and resulted in the ultimate betrayal. He was so angry he probably never reflect and find out what went wrong in their failed marriage, and with spite, he made another wrong choice by marrying Go Yura and brought on more trouble for himself. It was important for us to see he is now sowing the seed he planted before he begins to walk on the right path and become a better person (with the support and healing he received from Hee Joo & family), and that’s what I like about this storyline because Jin Woo is so different to other heroes.


Writer Song also mentioned she neither wrote the script specially for Hyun Bin nor did she changed the script to suit Hyun Bin after he was cast, so she was utterly surprised how perfectly he had portrayed Yoo Jin Woo. She couldn’t think of anyone but Hyun Bin that could digest a chaebol role who has a good physique; is good in action scenes and romance. Yeah, I think so too. Hyun Bin really nailed it, and in that let’s hope he gets recognised with an acting award from Baeksang this coming May for this role.

She was also asked about Park Shin Hye, and this is where it sparked anger on social media. It stemmed from Park Shin Hye’s disappointed fans which I fully understand how they feel. After all, they have waited two long years for her to return to the small screen and this is all that they get. But as someone who loves/enjoys this drama, it sure didn’t feel all that great to come across the hate comments when searching for the drama and actors with tags. A little consideration from these angry netizens would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

In summary, Writer Song confirmed that this is indeed a male centric drama and was never meant to centre around romance (yep, I could see that too). Hee Joo was supposed to be a character that’s neither a lover nor a friend (i.e. she’s in between a friend and a lover)—they are in a relationship much like the movies, The Man from Nowhere and Léon: The Professional. However after Hyun Bin and Park Shin Hye were cast, she felt that they were two beautiful people and that it’d be wasteful not to give them loveline, so she added some romance under the premise that it wouldn’t affect the main story, but she finds it difficult since it wasn’t meant to be in there the first place. Netizens were then angry as they felt misled since the show was promoted to be a romance fantasy. Ack, people, when will we all learn to take those promotional hijinks with a grain of salt? And to be fair, it does have romance. LOL. LOL.

Then there were fans/netizens that argued they were not angry because of the lack of romance but simply because Shin Hye was given so little to work with. In this Writer Song explained from the beginning* she had already asked for Shin Hye’s understanding (means they have communicated this from the start and Shin Hye knows her roles are not going to be major), in return she promised to Shin Hye a feeling of freshness by letting her play both Hee Joo and Emma. Now to be fair, I don’t have an issue if this is already communicated in advance and Shin Hye agreed to it. Personally, I like to think if Shin Hye already knows and is still willing to take the job then she must have really wanted to work with this production team and casts, and her decision should be respected. True that an actress with her current status deserves a meatier role, but a lesser/secondary role does NOT mean it will be completely meaningless and necessary be a taint to her resume. She can still learn a lot and gain more experiences from her fellow, veteran actors and if she is interested in the works behind the scenes, then that’s also something she can gain from.

*처음부터 박신혜에게 양해를 구했고 대신 1인 2역의 엠마 역이 본인에게 새로움을 줄 거라 약속했다.


Out of all the characters I’ve seen Shin Hye played, I prefer Hee Joo and Emma. Yes, I know I know… Hee Joo cries in every single episode and wasn’t given much to do but I wasn’t frustrated with her unlike Cha Eun Sang in Heirs. In Doctors, it was unfortunate in the hands of Writer Ha Myung Hee her once badass character sizzled out in the end. Hee Joo and Emma at least remain consistent in terms of characterization. The writers of Heirs and Doctors offended me more because Shin Hye was given meatier roles and they didn’t deliver, but with Hee Joo, there were scenes I actually thought Shin Hye stood out and did well. Her kissing scenes have improved tremendously too, particularly she has stopped frowning, or look like she didn’t enjoy the kiss, and she’s kissing back instead of shutting her lips tightly. Some people would still disagree because I’ve seen the comments on the exact scene(s) I find she did well, lol, so to that I can only say “each to our own, let’s agree to disagree”. *Shrugs — no one can please everybody*

I do hope Park Shin Hye comes out and clarifies this matter, because we need to see it from both perspectives. The hardest part now is obviously whether fans and netizens will accept what Shin Hye says and whether she knew it all along etc., because even I often advise others not to trust a published article to a tee and use our own brain to judge, read between the lines and take it with a grain of salt.

But at the end of the day, let’s be practical—it’s just a business transaction for the Big Shot. If tvN cast Hyun Bin and Park Shin Hye then they obviously going to make use of their popularity to promote the show. But then again, I don’t think fans should even be furious about this because tvN weren’t even promoting the show as much as they should! I’m the one that should be angry for not getting good quality and yummy promotional stills from each episode, and the drama’s official website hasn’t updated the stills page since episode 5 (new stills are only uploaded onto Twitter and Facebook).

Ultimately, it’s a good drama to be part of especially one that challenges new and refreshing concept. I personally would love to be part of it if I’m an actor. She gets to play two roles, learns Spanish and brushes up her guitar skills, and works with good actors, famous director and writer. All in all, it’s not a loss for her and is actually good for her resume. Not to mention this drama is being aired on international streaming platform such as Netflix. So regardless of the ratings** in South Korea, this drama is NOT a flop and will promote both Hyun Bin and her to the international audiences. For my many years of Kdrama watching experience, I know enough not to judge a drama based on its ratings too.

**For a cable drama, 10% is good but I think people ‘expected’ (once again, expectation) with the ‘star power combo’ of the actors, director and writer, the result is unexpectedly lower than other high rating tvN dramas.


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  1. Can you confirm that writer SJJ asked for PSH’s understanding from the beginning and not after? Because that’s what I got from them. Like they didn’t deliver what they promised to her and writer even said she tried but still lacked

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    1. The source I link at the bottom of my post is where SJJ mentioned it. I’m thinking if “them” you mentioned may have mixed up with her saying she tried to add romance after HB & SH were cast and she found that hard coz she never meant to have romance in it..?

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      1. Thanks. It seems like her fans think SJJ failed to deliver the Emma role that PSH was interested in with very little screentime up to now aside how bad and useless HJ has been written.
        For Korea rating, 10% on cable isn’t damn especially for gaming concept that ahjuma and older people likely aren’t interested. It’s one of the 4 most popular dramas and rating have been steadily gone up.
        And have you only watched heirs and doctors from PSH? If you are interested Pinocchio and Flower boy next door are probably my fav of hers. Writers love to make her crying too much here and heirs… I mean she could cry very well but it would annoy people

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        1. I understand why her fans feel that way, they had expectations, so when it failed their expectations they got angry, but what they feel doesn’t represent PSH. I hope in the post drama interviews she can clarify for her fans. Other (drama?) fans also felt we’re in the modern time now so why can’t the writer write a stronger heroine for Hee Joo. It’s an understandable expectation but we’re not the writer, SJJ is and that seems to always be her style.

          I’ve seen Pinocchio and the one with Jung Yong Hwa (can’t remember the name right now). Come to think of it, Pinocchio is another drama that’s male centric as well, so again, she didn’t stand out.

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          1. Male centric isn’t an issue though. Because PSH has been in many male centric dramas Heirs, Pinocchio, You’re beautiful, etc…
            Only doctors and fbnd were female centric. However her roles in each dramas contributed to the plot and are useful, which isn’t the case here.
            In Pinocchio, even it’s the male lead story but she has her own story with her job, her mom and her family and wasn’t there just to be the male lead love interest. I don’t think it’s too much of expectation for asking for a normal useful and well developed female lead role in a male centric drama. The fact that SJJ failed to develop both HJ and Emma while giving screentime and importance to other support characters angered them. And she make Heejoo cry in every scene because she wanted to add melo in her drama. If this isn’t bad writing then what is this? Honestly she added romance for ratings which worked well for her even with her dry and awkward romance writing here because apparently Korea are hungry for their romance

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            1. Your response goes back to what I’ve said about everyone has their own level of expectations; the core issue is her characters just aren’t up to your expectation. Let’s be honest, if Hee Joo is not played by PSH, will people be unsatisfied with the weight of Hee Joo/Emma’s roles? Luckily for me I watched it without any expectation & didn’t watch it because of Hyun Bin or PSH, it was purely because it was written by SJJ & I had liked her bold & interesting take on W, so I wanted to check it out & see if it’s another mind-blowing storyline & it is.

              Let’s dissect the story, as we all know, this drama is Jin Woo’s story = Jin Woo’s centric. Naturally Jin Woo is the most well-developed/written character. And let’s dissect the time frame too. In Granada, they were acquainted say min. 2 weeks, max. a month (?). They have no contact for one whole year after. What we see now is probably in a short time frame of say, 1-2 months? The story is told through Jin Woo’s eyes as what happened in a 1-2 year’s timeline (16 episodes), and if we factor in the timelines & Jin Woo’s crazy condition, how much can you incorporate Hee Joo into his life story? The way I see how the story has unfold, the only leading role is Jin Woo; everyone else is secondary. I’m assuming coz well-known actress PSH was cast, so she became a female lead by ‘name’, and that’s perhaps why SJJ communicated with her and make it up to her by giving her 2 roles. BUT, we don’t know the backstory to the casting, so let’s move on coz we won’t get anywhere w/ this discussion.

              What exactly is ‘normal useful’? From my understanding of this drama, Hee Joo/Emma does contribute to the plot and is useful in their own ways. Hee Joo isn’t just a love interest either. They both have their own importance just as much as other side-characters as per Jin Woo’s story. I suppose we first have to agree SJJ is an old-fashioned writer, so Hee Joo isn’t the badass, forefront, strong fighter heroine we hoped for. But Hee Joo is definitely not useless. Rather, I find she fits the description of the saying: “Behind every successful man there is a woman”.

              Recently I came across Glenn Close’s Golden Globe winning speech: “What I’ve learned through this whole experience is that women, we’re nurturers, that’s what’s expected of us,” she said. “We have our children and we have our husbands, if we’re lucky enough, and we have our partners, whoever. But we have to find personal fulfillment. We have to follow our dreams. We have to say ‘I can do that and I should be allowed to do that. The part “women being nurturers and what’s expected of us” reminds me of Hee Joo. I think that’s SJJ’s vision of Hee Joo. If we see Jin Woo playing the AR game as soldiers going to war, Hee Joo (=the wives) becomes the man’s emotional/mental support—a loved ones that motivates the man not to give up easily, fight to live and she = home for him to return to. Whereas “we have to find personal fulfillment & follow our dreams” reminds me of Jin Woo telling Hee Joo to follow her dream.

              I dunno if crying in every episode is intentional but I don’t believe it’s to add melo into the story. Tears can at times be interpreted as a sign of weakness, but tears can mean so many things and most importantly, it’s a woman’s weapon when used correctly. Hee Joo is a pure/naive character so she probably doesn’t know how powerful her tears are because it heals, touches & breaks Jin Woo down, and made him even more determined to risk his life to play the game & find Se Joo. This is the Hee Joo SJJ wants in her story, she is a nurturer not a fighter, so she can’t physically help Jin Woo in the AR game. And I’d rather not risk having a heroine that keeps getting in the way of the hero coz that’d be even more frustrating. As for Emma, she’s part of the mystery of the AR game, the show would lose its mysterious theme immediately if SJJ shows her hand on Emma too early in the show. The romance isn’t executed perfectly but it’s not awkward. It had always been there since the beginning, started off really slow and light. Hints were there since very earlier on. It’s just not the main focus of the story, and I’m glad that’s the case because like I said in my other posts, timing wasn’t right and Jin Woo was not ready for it.

              Bad/good writing = I’ll judge it when I get my ending but for now, I don’t think it’s a bad writing.

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  2. Even HJ character wasn’t played by psh it’s still one one the weakest female leads in the recent years of Kdramas. And yes everyone has expectation not just because the names of the actors but also how the production has been promoting the drama as 2 leads thing. Is that our fault that they did fake advertising and misleaded?

    And there shouldn’t be a conflict between a male centric drama vs a well developed or at least decent female lead character if we have good writing. Like we mentioned Pinocchio was also a male centric and I rarely see anyone complained about the female lead character. It’s also one of the harmony piece I have seen where not just leads but all support characters get to shine. But here, SSJ wasn’t good enough to pull that off. This is simply a one-man show. Not only there isn’t room for female lead, Most if not all supporting characters was underused and pretty much 1-D. They are only here to serve the male lead. In fact most of SJJ dramas are male centric so I’m not surprised. However her female leads get worse each time and this time even supporting roles are quite a downgrade as well . This is her lacking in writing. Actually her female leads were much better before. It’s one of the reasons why I’m disappointed too

    I’m not sure lol, you seem like you are a fan of the writer for having excuse and defend her for everything, from making female lead cry at everything to how lack of agency she is as character because it’s a JW centric drama . I guess this is also why she released her interview before the final because knetz have been dragging her and it would only get worse which where the final is heading, if she didn’t defend herself before hand.
    Enjoy the final

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    1. You know SJJ writes male centric dramas, you’re not surprised BUT you’re still disappointed re: her writing for females. This sounds contradicting.

      I’m not a fan of SJJ; just a drama watcher who really enjoys the show and paid close attention to the story-telling and understood from very early on this is a one man show. Furthermore, unlike you I’m not a PSH’s fan, so I’m not offended at the lack of HJ/Emma’s screen time or character exploration. It was evident narratively from early on where the focus is & accepted that other characters are only in there to support Jin Woo. It is people like you who needs to come to term with the story set-up and not dwell on the word “female lead” = “must be better written/well-developed/more screen time”. I don’t agree branding MotA as bad writing simply based on the “female lead” becoming a supporting role & disregard everything else that’s good (so far), because there are other writers that can’t get anything right at all. But if this is your rating for this show, I respect your decision and ask that you respect mine because it’s impolite to accuse one is making excuses for the writer just because one disagrees with you. Also note, I never said it was OK for HJ to cry in every episode.

      Most dramas are male centric, but the story-telling isn’t 100% on one person therefore comparing Pinocchio to MotA doesn’t work here. Pinocchio doesn’t have great writing either & lost its spark after Hyung went to jail.

      An advice: next time don’t be so gullible and believe everything in promotional materials.

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  3. Really liked reading the comments. With you on how the female lead has been written here. I understand the need for a strong female lead. But I never for once felt that Hee Joo wasn’t strong.

    In fact, like you have mentioned, she was instrumental in Jin Woo’s transformation into a more caring person. She is someone who is quite openly feminine and OK not being in the limelight.

    In fact, it makes perfect sense why Jin Woo would fall for someone like her…his past two relationships have been with fairly demanding ladies, and the actress was pretty Alpha at that. Jin Woo himself being an Alpha, would gravitate towards Hee Joo who is OK with being the 2nd lead to him and not competing with him. I think at the stage where he is in life, he needs someone stable, someone who offers a warm shelter from all the literal and figurative demons he has to deal with. Hee Joo brings that warmth and sunshine to his life.

    Also, there are several instances where we have been shown that Hee Joo is not a doormat and can put up a great fight when the need arises – be it not accepting rent from him in episode 2, to insulting his ‘fake clothes and watch’ to screaming at him when he’s unwilling to let her drive after his stay in the hospital to demanding that he sit down and get his bruise cleaned at her home, when they meet after a year…OR calling him a coward who is running away yet again…OR demanding that he take her out on her birthday…The girl sure knows just the right words to put Jin Woo on his back foot…I don’t think that’s a weak character at all. Even when she decides to login into the game despite the risks, i thought it was pretty cool.

    Just that, this isn’t her story. It’s his PoV. I was totally OK with that.

    Now IF ONLY, we had been given the ending this show and its characters and audiences deserved 😦

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    1. Thank you, for the additional breakdown for Hee Joo’s character and her importance even though may appear minor in the show. 🙂 Hee Joo is generally not a confrontational person (like she just ignores Sang Beom when he nags her at the dinner table rather than telling him to shut up), but she can be and we all had seen her having a go at Jin Woo (so funny…! I enjoy that scene)

      Sigh, I miss them already

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  4. After I hit the submit button, I realised there’s just so much more to be written about Hee Joo. I am just miffed with the online backlash the writer has received for writing an underdeveloped character. I just didn’t get that feeling.

    In fact, both the sisters bring out the best in Jin Woo. Both challenge him in their own ways and make him try to get better at being a kinder, considerate person. I find Jin Woo and Min Joo’s interactions Also precious! The way she pulls his leg, and manages to stun him with uncomfortable questions is hilarious! And have to say he is equally indulgent towards her… and extends her smiles and warmth which he generally wouldn’t to anyone.

    I can’t begin to share the disappointment on this show’s end. Even upto episode 12.. every episode is perfect. Sometimes I feel the writer probably got trapped in the amazing world she created and the plot and many twists became too big for her own boots, to try and make a sense of. And yet, I think I will keep revisiting this show even in future. A bad end still doesn’t take away from the lovely fantasy world set up for us. It was indeed magical while it lasted.

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    1. BTW, what’s your thought of the complaints about Hee Joo doesn’t seem concern about Se Joo even though she suspected something is not quite right…?

      TBH, I don’t think Hee Joo is underdeveloped as a side-character because just look at how much you wrote about her character in your own comments. She’s only considered underdeveloped coz people expected her to have a larger role, and obviously there’s that problem of her crying in every episode. I can’t defend SJJ for this setup too (i.e. if she is indeed responsible!)

      Genre/topics such as these are actually very challenging to write or make sense of because it’s all about imaginations. There’s no definite right or wrong to it. Of course one would argue it should at least be logical but everyone’s logic isn’t the same, is it? A lot of comics I’ve read are like that too. Even movies like Matrix or Inception, I feel like I understood it but other times I don’t think I fully did. I think shows like this sometimes is more about “putting out an new idea” rather than expecting that idea to give an definite answer. I hope I make sense of what I wanted to say here, lol. I think SJJ did a fairly good job being the first to challenge such topics, don’t you? I’d like to see another “experienced” writer try. But since it’s on Netflix, so who knows, maybe the US would buy its copyright and do a remake…? I’d definitely check that out and see if they could do a better job 😛

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      1. I think she was definitely worried about Se Joo. But since the story is from Jin Woo’s PoV, it’s natural for them not to cover that aspect. In fact, when she caught on that Jin Woo is writing those emails to her, she was even more furious and kept up with the charade. I felt somewhere she assumed things were not right and kept hoping to find more answers. Also, Jin Woo being a powerful CEO, I imagine she also felt worried about Se Joo falling into trouble with powerful people. As it is, she already feels that the 10 billion she received did more harm than good to her
        I haven’t watched any of PSH / HB / SJJ shows before this one. So went in without any expectations. But I think fans were quite upset. At a story and thematic level, I didn’t feel her character was underdeveloped. Even the crying, honestly, I would cry bucket full too if I found myself in such a situation. Being a caretaker from such a young age and having got into the crossfire of two competing tech CEOs and their greed, there’s little she can do…and naturally feels helpless. So I don’t know why people had such issues with her crying… Could her character be better, yes definitely. But given the scale of the show, the key plot around gaming and the protagonist’s own personal transformation, there’s very little that could have been done anyway. And maybe SJJ is a traditional writer who tends to write male centric shows. Who are we to blame her?
        I quite agree with you on writing Sci-Fi. Not sure if you have watched ‘Black Mirror’ series.. it’s a dystopian show on technology and its impact on human life and wellbeing. You may like it, if this genre interests you. Though, it’s much darker. And that’s why I really liked this show. Despite everything, SJJ has created a fantastic world, which has much heart and hope. Also, given we are still not sure how AI/AR/VR will actually impact life in future, she’s still managed to do a fairly decent job. When I thought about how Emma is actually AI, and has reformatted the game, it was brilliant and scary at the same time… I mean, just thinking intellectually/ethically…how will AI respond to such situations in future? Are we supposed to feed our codes of conduct into them? Or will they follow their own? Will AI be vindictive? Can they harm and take revenge? It’s a pandora’s box really…so am just glad that she tried to bring in some really interesting plot twists and elements into her writing

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        1. One of the complaints I saw of Hee Joo’s character was that being a caretaker from a young age should make her stronger, as in she should not be weak and cries so easily. But my take is she’s not completely by herself, she have grandma as a pillar to lean on. I don’t think a person who cries easily necessarily means she is not strong.

          The part I agree w/ others a little is the train station chase scene. I don’t think she needs to cry till she was sobbing. I think shedding a few tears should be good enough because it’s a bit much to cry for someone to that extent when she’s only known Jin Woo for a few days to 2 weeks max. That scene did felt forced in terms of writing. They didn’t have to use that scene to emphasize on Jin Woo’s feelings of her tears.

          Not sure traditional is the right word, but SJJ definitely has a preference and style for her writing. It’s definitely male centric and it’s evident in her previous works. I’m okay with male centric shows as long as they don’t make the female characters into bitches, bimbos or sex toy. I don’t mind a story whereby the man fights the big battle, and the woman provides mental support/love, and/or protect the other things. I think in terms of this, writer Song Ji Na who wrote Healer and Faith did a good job in balancing out the male and the female’s responsibilities in the show. Under her pen, her heroines are weak in physique and needed protection from the hero but they had wits, are strong-minded and are willing to fight alongside the hero to the end. She painted both heroes and heroines to one couldn’t live without the other in the story so it was well-written in that sense. For this show though, people just need to accept that this is Jin Woo’s story, told from his POV.

          These sort of topics are pretty controversial, including cloning (I was thinking hard on the ethical issues after watching Duel) hence interesting to explore. I think SJJ has done her job in exploring the topic and open up the “pandora box” and give us food for thought. I’ve heard of Dark Mirror… I’ll check it out when I find the time.

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          1. On the tears scene, I have a different PoV.
            There are ample scenes that give us a hint on how He Joo is likely to react in a particular situation.
            1: Hospital scene where Jin Woo feels incredulous and tells Min Joo how his sister could fall for him when they have known each other only for a couple of days. Min Joo does mention that Hee Joo has a soft heart and falls in love quite easily [to me it seemed like, Hee Joo is someone who is fairly easy to get attached to people and trusting by nature]
            2: When Min Joo meets Jin Woo at his apartment, right after he’s woken up after days/weeks, and says that Hee Joo has been looking after him pretty much 24/7. She also calls Jin Woo a ‘Master’ at melting women’s hearts…as he just knows what words to use to make a woman drop everything and take care of him…
            3: Hee Joo was quite reluctant to leave him alone and celebrate her birthday and felt somewhere she was doing wrong by enjoying while he was clearly still depressed [needed care]
            4: When she calls him from her dressing table while he’s locked himself up in his bathroom, she asks him if he is okay to which he replies, will she come back if he wasn’t okay… I thought this was a very well written scene…and really brought out the vulnerabilities and dependence of both characters … somewhere, deep down, Jin Woo wanted to hear that she would drop everything and come and be with him…he was as good as discarded by everyone he held close…plus he was also amazed at this new knowledge after having woken up from his slumber – that he had kept asking for Hee Joo all through the past few days/weeks…even when unconscious / half conscious…she was all he needed to feel ‘okay’

            at the same time, Hee Joo is already feeling guilty about having left him alone when he’s still physically and emotionally weak and is almost at the verge of running back to him..

            Given all this background, AND that Hee Joo is probably by now, really emotionally involved with him and his well-being AND that she feels she will probably never see him again, I feel it was okay to sob…:-)

            I know there will never be a right or wrong answer here…some people will always find her weak… I just feel tears are a release for her…she’s definitely soft hearted but never weak

            As far as Jin Woo’s feelings, I think when his train sets in motion, he is stumped to see her at the station…he had (until then) not realised the impact of his actions on her…someone who had almost cared for him like a mother would…and he was being so selfish in just taking off without so much of a thank you…he was a broken person who was tired of all the fake tears and people in his life…and yet here was this one person, who had stood by him, and he had failed to do good by her…

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  5. What’s also amazing is that Hee Joo and Jin Woo are both orphans.

    I really liked that reveal almost towards the ene of the show.

    Both of them have had tough childhoods that way . And yet, one turns out to be emotionally distant, slightly stunted in relationships while the other turns out to be warm, nurturing and forgiving.

    They both inhabit really different worlds and I loved how he is genuinely struck by her innocence and naïveté even. Coming from a competitive, jealous , dog-eat-dog world, he cannot fathom why or how someone could be so giving and trusting. This makes him genuinely upset in a way, and even makes him want to be a better person whom Hee Joo can trust ❤️

    This show is truly about trust and faith people invest in each other and how that can decide one’s fate actually. So I even get the shows last scene where the writer says trust makes this world better and not technology. And yet only if the.end.was.better 🙄

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    1. LMAOOO at you nagging re: ending… agree it could have been better. Some closure would be nice and showing us Jin Woo finally be happy with Hee Joo & co.

      This show is also about the ‘choices’ made & the ‘consequences’. Throughout the show my brain was having an internal dispute: one side said it’s all Se Joo’s fault, if he hadn’t called Jin Woo then Jin Woo wouldn’t be in this mess, meanwhile the other side argued it was Jin Woo who decided to go to Granda and both he and Hyung Seok decided to duel. 😅

      I can see you’ve analysed & dissected both characters. 👍 You are spot-on on Jin Woo, having been the one deceiving Hee Joo, but is actually worried about her being deceived by others and feeling guilty about it. LOL. He started to ‘care for the family’ too after Hee Joo took care of him, and wanted to protect them from learning about Se Joo’s disappearance. It was the same as well in ep12 that he was still hesitant until grandma fainted and pushed him to confront Professor Cha.

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      1. your comment on who’s fault made me re-think a few things…

        In Marco and Se Joo’s fight – Marco cheats and uses an actual knife and the game gets reformatted… so technically, Marco is wrong…and now SE Joo is “sort of” allowed to retaliate with a similar impact weapon that will have “real life” implication and can induce shock – leading to death

        In Jin Woo and Cha’s fight, the fist fight was initiated by Cha. So technically Jin Woo was right and his sword led to Cha’s death.

        But in this case, WHY did Jin Woo end up being the bug?! And if he was the bug, shouldn’t Se Joo also be the bug?

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        1. For Se Joo, his retaliation is more out of fear and self-defense. So I wouldn’t fault him for this but I was shocked that he programmed Emma to stab the person completing his mission in the heart. Did he not know it might kill that person/cause pain…? I know he didn’t mean for all this to happen, but the “intention/design” of bug removal is a scary thought to have…

          For Jin Woo and Hyung Seok, they both had murderous intentions especially Jin Woo when he stabbed Hyung Seok (at 1:01:53). I can’t help but think that was when all things went wrong for him. And Hyun Bin did really well in this part because he was indeed looking murderous at that point.

          Se Joo is also an error too. If we take what SJJ said that this is like a ‘virus’, then when the virus was first created through Marco stabbing Se Joo & Se Joo shoots Marco (thus infects Marco with the virus). Zinu’s murderous intention triggered the virus and infected Hyung Seok through the sword. When NPC Hyung Seok slashed him at Hostel Bonita (he felt pain for the first time), Jin Woo also got infected. He then spreads his virus to Secretary Seo and Professor Cha by forming alliance.

          I think the editing messed up the timeline for viewers so it looks like Se Joo came back straight after Jin Woo completed the mission but I believe he was first forced out of the instance dungeon when his Master status passed on to Jin Woo (this happened in the morning). Whilst Jin Woo was unconscious through to the night & fought more NPCs at the hotel, Se Joo was at Alcazaba cafe then took a plane to Seoul (let’s assume he commuted all routes by planes). He arrived late at night but the same night that Director Park went to the church. Indicated to us when Director Park touched Zinu’s remains, he was deleted 16 hours ago (Netflix in English translated to 15, I don’t know why, but in Chinese subs & the screen is 16). We also got a clue from the other board member saying that Jin Woo asked him to turn on the server at 6-7 am. So 16 + 7 = 23 00 (11 PM+). By the time Se Joo arrived in Seoul, the game has already been reset so he is no longer a bug/error. I don’t know if you have read my other drama review post, I mentioned I didn’t think it was necessary for Jin Woo to stab HS, Professor Cha and Secretary Seo in ep16 because once Emma reset the game, every ‘bugs’ should be wiped out anyway. I believe we got these scenes for dramatic and emotional effects and as a closure for Jin Woo.

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          1. Emma doesn’t reset the game before Jin Woo kills all bugs. The criteria for re-setting is that all bugs, including Zinu must be deleted.
            So she resets the game after all bugs have been deleted.
            My issue is, that the game is reset 16 hours after Zinu is turned into ash, when Park and He Joo are at the church! Why take that long? That was a logical lapse IMO. Only purpose it serves is to tell these two characters along with the viewer, that now things are back to ‘normal’ and all is well with the game

            But I agree with you on why Se Joo would have Emma stab the players in their heart…that is vicious… But maybe it means something larger / philosophical?
            Like, all ill feelings first take seed in the heart and therefore the heart needs to be cured? [Just thinking out loud here, though we may never get these answers]

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            1. I’ve a differing view on this.

              The step that the show called “removing the bug” (Emma stabbing Zinu) is just the trigger for the game to reset (like inserting the key to the keyhole). Jin Woo technically didn’t have to kill the other bugs himself. If all bugs must be deleted before reset then Emma needs to stab the others first but Emma has no interactions with other NPCs, never will and doesn’t need to coz these bugs are linked to Jin Woo, so it’ll get erased when Zinu is deleted. That’s why she stabbed Jin Woo in ep15 right away. She just needs to trigger the reset, and the reset will wipe out other errors in one go.

              Although I don’t have the right answer to your question, but my speculation is the reset will start on the “the original” copy of the game in Spain first, and then move on to reset other countries. Once I did a full reset on Windows 7, it took forever to reformat, like the system needs to check this & that first and back some things up before officially reset the operating system. Then I need another day to reinstall all programs back. 😓

              But this part definitely has a plot hole because anything like this you would expect J-One to backup all the maps etc., and yet they appear to lose everything and spend another year to rebuild.

              Haha, I like this take “all ill feelings first take seed in the heart and therefore the heart needs to be cured?”

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  6. Well, a year has passed. Several points to bear in mind: 1) The bug is triggered when a player of the game attempts real physical harm on another player. 2) The character of the bug is that it links your physical body into the game, so gameplay can damage you physically. (How this can happen is never explained in the show, and would be a fascinating thing to explore in season 2, should it happen). Under normal gameplay players physical body isn’t linked to the game, and thus being stabbed in the heart would just log you out. 3) The bug was a bug, after all — something wrong in the system. Se Joo was as surprised as Jin Woo by the linkage of his physical body into the game, so he didn’t know that Emma stabbing a bug in the heart could have physical ramifications. That is, stabbing a bug in the heart was just a creative expression of a programming metaphor.

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